Discussion:
Extra Remote for IR to UHF Pro Upgrad Kit
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W4NNG
2009-02-14 23:40:36 UTC
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Using a Dish 'IR to UHF Pro' Upgrad Kit to control a VIP211.

The remote is a version 10.1. Haven't been able to find a source of just
the 10.1 remote.

Anyone know a 10.1 source or if any other UHF Pro versions will work?

FWIW: A UHF Pro Ver 8.0 does NOT work
W4NNG
2009-02-16 14:12:08 UTC
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Since no one on this group knew, I tried Dish. I wonder if they really took
the time to determine if it would work thru the upgrade kit



----- Original Message -----
From: ***@customermail.dishnetwork.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 3:08 AM
Subject: RE: Sales & Equipment, 7037682461


Dear Mr. Robert Brubaker,

Thank you for your e-mail. You can purchase a new remote control through our
Customer Service at 1-800-333-3474. The cost is $19.99 plus $5.95 shipping
and handling fee for a UHF Universal Remote control.

We thank you for allowing us to be of assistance to you. If you have any
further questions or concerns, please refer to www.dishnetwork.com or reply
to this email.






_____________________________________________
From: ***@soalex.us [mailto:***@soalex.us]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:12 PM
To: FeedBack
Subject: Sales & Equipment, 7037682461

Using an IR to UHF Pro Upgrade kit on a VIP211. Kit came w/ UHF Pro remote
ver 10.1

Would like to purchase spare UHF remotes. It appears the 10.1 remote is not
sold seperately. Can I buy any UHF Pro remote or are there version that
will NOT work with my set up.

" W4NNG" <***@soalex.us> wrote in message news:ZDIll.3467$***@newsfe01.iad...
Using a Dish 'IR to UHF Pro' Upgrad Kit to control a VIP211.

The remote is a version 10.1. Haven't been able to find a source of just
the 10.1 remote.

Anyone know a 10.1 source or if any other UHF Pro versions will work?

FWIW: A UHF Pro Ver 8.0 does NOT work
Bill Henley
2009-02-16 19:37:33 UTC
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Post by W4NNG
Since no one on this group knew, I tried Dish. I wonder if they really took
the time to determine if it would work thru the upgrade kit
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 3:08 AM
Subject: RE: Sales & Equipment, 7037682461
Dear Mr. Robert Brubaker,
Thank you for your e-mail. You can purchase a new remote control through our
Customer Service at 1-800-333-3474. The cost is $19.99 plus $5.95 shipping
and handling fee for a UHF Universal Remote control.
We thank you for allowing us to be of assistance to you. If you have any
further questions or concerns, please refer to www.dishnetwork.com or reply
to this email.
_____________________________________________
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:12 PM
To: FeedBack
Subject: Sales & Equipment, 7037682461
Using an IR to UHF Pro Upgrade kit on a VIP211. Kit came w/ UHF Pro remote
ver 10.1
Would like to purchase spare UHF remotes. It appears the 10.1 remote is not
sold seperately. Can I buy any UHF Pro remote or are there version that
will NOT work with my set up.
Using a Dish 'IR to UHF Pro' Upgrad Kit to control a VIP211.
The remote is a version 10.1. Haven't been able to find a source of just
the 10.1 remote.
Anyone know a 10.1 source or if any other UHF Pro versions will work?
FWIW: A UHF Pro Ver 8.0 does NOT work
There is a possiblity that you could get an 8.1 that would work with
your 10.1 remote, but of the remotes shown at
<http://tech.dishnetwork.com/departmental_content/TechPortal/content/tech/remotehome.shtml>
the 8.1 is the only one that MIGHT work with the 'IR to UHF Pro'.
Terrible name for something that generates IR FROM UHF Pro.

The plastic keys at the bottom of an 8.1 (and I'd assume the 10.1 -
never seen one) have a different appearance than the keys for 6.x
remotes, and change the frequency to one of the two choices for
remotes in the base unit. If you select either the 8.1 or 10.1 remote
in the above URL, you will get a reference to IR to UHF Pro under
Troubleshooting on the left. Other remotes won't have the IR to UHF
Pro item (one might have an IR to UHF reference from the older unit).

Beware of a "UHF Universal Remote" from DISH. That will likely be a
6.3 and set of keys that allow it to operate any DISH Receiver
(excluding 7x00 Dishplayers). That does NOT operate the box that
converts UHF to IR that came with the 10.1 remote.
--
Bill Henley
W4NNG
2009-02-17 12:36:49 UTC
Permalink
One that does not work is the Ver 8 series. Had a Dish 811 w/ ver 8
remote. Upgrade to VIP211 w/ UHF kit. UHF Pro 8 did not work


"Bill Henley" <***@No-Spam.CalWeb.com> wrote in message news:Zfjml.22916$***@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...

There is a possiblity that you could get an 8.1 that would work with
your 10.1 remote, but of the remotes shown at
<http://tech.dishnetwork.com/departmental_content/TechPortal/content/tech/remotehome.shtml>
the 8.1 is the only one that MIGHT work with the 'IR to UHF Pro'.
Terrible name for something that generates IR FROM UHF Pro.

The plastic keys at the bottom of an 8.1 (and I'd assume the 10.1 -
never seen one) have a different appearance than the keys for 6.x
remotes, and change the frequency to one of the two choices for
remotes in the base unit. If you select either the 8.1 or 10.1 remote
in the above URL, you will get a reference to IR to UHF Pro under
Troubleshooting on the left. Other remotes won't have the IR to UHF
Pro item (one might have an IR to UHF reference from the older unit).

Beware of a "UHF Universal Remote" from DISH. That will likely be a
6.3 and set of keys that allow it to operate any DISH Receiver
(excluding 7x00 Dishplayers). That does NOT operate the box that
converts UHF to IR that came with the 10.1 remote.
--
Bill Henley
Bill Henley
2009-02-17 17:46:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by W4NNG
One that does not work is the Ver 8 series. Had a Dish 811 w/ ver 8
remote. Upgrade to VIP211 w/ UHF kit. UHF Pro 8 did not work
There is a possiblity that you could get an 8.1 that would work with
your 10.1 remote, but of the remotes shown at
<http://tech.dishnetwork.com/departmental_content/TechPortal/content/tech/remotehome.shtml>
the 8.1 is the only one that MIGHT work with the 'IR to UHF Pro'.
Terrible name for something that generates IR FROM UHF Pro.
The plastic keys at the bottom of an 8.1 (and I'd assume the 10.1 -
never seen one) have a different appearance than the keys for 6.x
remotes, and change the frequency to one of the two choices for
remotes in the base unit. If you select either the 8.1 or 10.1 remote
in the above URL, you will get a reference to IR to UHF Pro under
Troubleshooting on the left. Other remotes won't have the IR to UHF
Pro item (one might have an IR to UHF reference from the older unit).
Beware of a "UHF Universal Remote" from DISH. That will likely be a
6.3 and set of keys that allow it to operate any DISH Receiver
(excluding 7x00 Dishplayers). That does NOT operate the box that
converts UHF to IR that came with the 10.1 remote.
No remote that operates a receiver will work with the "IR to UHF" kit.
I can't speak about a 10.1 I've never seen, but the previous 8.1
that did operate the "IR to UHF" kit couldn't be used to control a
receiver. eBay would be a terrible place to try to find a remote that
would work with the kit - all those remotes control receivers. You
could get a 10.1 by buying another kit on eBay, but not cost effective
(unless you can be the only bidder at $10 + $10 shipping).

Here's a link to the old kit with the 8.1:
http://www.dishstore.net/product_info.php?cPath=26&products_id=228

Your best bet would be to get another 10.1 from DISH for $20 +
shipping - if you can. It will be pretty hard to reach someone that
will know what you are asking for. You DON'T want:
http://www.dishstore.net/product_info.php?cPath=26&products_id=267
Because it operates all those receiver choices, that means it WON'T
operate the kit.

<http://tech.dishnetwork.com/departmental_content/TechPortal/images/pdf/tech/remotes/10.1.pdf>
makes it appear as if the 10.1 could do both receivers and control the
kit but the picture has "Kit keys" and the "text" for a regular 6.3
remote:
Identifies the remote from
TV1, TV2, IR, or UHF

Google for "10.1 Remote" does show someone was trying to sell on on
Craigslist. It is gone, but it confirms that DISH does send them:

Dish Network 10.1 UHF Pro remote
Brand new 10.1 UHF Pro remote. Dish network accidentally sent this
remote instead of the one for my receiver. This remote will only work
with certain UHF ...

Problem is it is what you want, now what that guy needed.

Kept looking at the Google hits and found
<http://www.alaskadish.com/Documents/PDF/Factsblasts/Facts%20Blast%20042006.pdf>


Tech Info
IR-to-UHF Pro Upgrade Kit – Now with 10.1 Remote – Control IR-only
DISH Network receivers (for example DISH 301, 311, 411, ViP211) with a
UHF Pro remote. The latest upgrade kit version includes a 10.1 remote
control. It is the same as the 8.1 that was included before, except
the 10.1 gives you the option of a different UHF Pro frequency. Both
frequencies are different than the UHF Pro remotes that ship with the
receivers, so it reduces remote control conflicts in a home. It is a
configurable remote, meaning you can remove the key, flip it over and
reinsert it for a different frequency. If you do this, you must flip
the switch on the converter to match. The black side of the
configurable key is the same frequency as the 8.1; the silver side has
the new frequency.
• Read the Quick Facts: IR-to-UHF Pro Upgrade Kit to learn more. It
can be found on the Retailer Care Site in the Info Center 􀃆 Service,
Hardware and Technology 􀃆 Remotes & Accessories 􀃆 Accessories 􀃆
Remote Control Upgrade Kits.
• IR-to-UHF Pro Upgrade Kit Info:
o Part number: 137682
o Retailer Cost: $34.00
o MSRP: $49.00
• Learn more about remote controls and what their current replacement
remotes are for every DISH Network receiver. Replacement Remote
Control Selection Guide can be found on the Retailer Care Site in the
Info Center 􀃆 Service, Hardware and Technology 􀃆 Remotes &
Accessories 􀃆 Remotes.


Good luck!
--
Bill Henley
aemeijers
2009-02-17 02:55:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by W4NNG
Since no one on this group knew, I tried Dish. I wonder if they really took
the time to determine if it would work thru the upgrade kit
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 3:08 AM
Subject: RE: Sales & Equipment, 7037682461
Dear Mr. Robert Brubaker,
Thank you for your e-mail. You can purchase a new remote control through our
Customer Service at 1-800-333-3474. The cost is $19.99 plus $5.95 shipping
and handling fee for a UHF Universal Remote control.
We thank you for allowing us to be of assistance to you. If you have any
further questions or concerns, please refer to www.dishnetwork.com or reply
to this email.
_____________________________________________
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:12 PM
To: FeedBack
Subject: Sales & Equipment, 7037682461
Using an IR to UHF Pro Upgrade kit on a VIP211. Kit came w/ UHF Pro remote
ver 10.1
Would like to purchase spare UHF remotes. It appears the 10.1 remote is not
sold seperately. Can I buy any UHF Pro remote or are there version that
will NOT work with my set up.
Using a Dish 'IR to UHF Pro' Upgrad Kit to control a VIP211.
The remote is a version 10.1. Haven't been able to find a source of just
the 10.1 remote.
Anyone know a 10.1 source or if any other UHF Pro versions will work?
FWIW: A UHF Pro Ver 8.0 does NOT work
Tried ebay? That is where I bought all my extra remotes. Admittedly,
never a 'leading edge' model, but I'm sure there are some gray-market
ones out there.

--
aem sends...
Jer
2009-02-17 05:54:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by aemeijers
Post by W4NNG
Since no one on this group knew, I tried Dish. I wonder if they
really took the time to determine if it would work thru the upgrade kit
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 3:08 AM
Subject: RE: Sales & Equipment, 7037682461
Dear Mr. Robert Brubaker,
Thank you for your e-mail. You can purchase a new remote control
through our Customer Service at 1-800-333-3474. The cost is $19.99
plus $5.95 shipping and handling fee for a UHF Universal Remote control.
We thank you for allowing us to be of assistance to you. If you have
any further questions or concerns, please refer to www.dishnetwork.com
or reply to this email.
_____________________________________________
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:12 PM
To: FeedBack
Subject: Sales & Equipment, 7037682461
Using an IR to UHF Pro Upgrade kit on a VIP211. Kit came w/ UHF Pro
remote ver 10.1
Would like to purchase spare UHF remotes. It appears the 10.1 remote
is not sold seperately. Can I buy any UHF Pro remote or are there
version that will NOT work with my set up.
Using a Dish 'IR to UHF Pro' Upgrad Kit to control a VIP211.
The remote is a version 10.1. Haven't been able to find a source of just
the 10.1 remote.
Anyone know a 10.1 source or if any other UHF Pro versions will work?
FWIW: A UHF Pro Ver 8.0 does NOT work
Tried ebay? That is where I bought all my extra remotes. Admittedly,
never a 'leading edge' model, but I'm sure there are some gray-market
ones out there.
--
aem sends...
On eBay gray-market = stolen
--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'
Char Jackson
2009-02-17 16:15:40 UTC
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Post by Jer
Post by aemeijers
Tried ebay? That is where I bought all my extra remotes. Admittedly,
never a 'leading edge' model, but I'm sure there are some gray-market
ones out there.
--
aem sends...
On eBay gray-market = stolen
Much more likely it means the item was not intended to be sold in this
market. I have never heard gray market being equated to stolen before.
That sounds more like the black market, which might be what you were
thinking of.
Bill R
2009-02-17 17:04:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Char Jackson
Post by Jer
Post by aemeijers
Tried ebay? That is where I bought all my extra remotes. Admittedly,
never a 'leading edge' model, but I'm sure there are some gray-market
ones out there.
--
aem sends...
On eBay gray-market = stolen
Much more likely it means the item was not intended to be sold in this
market. I have never heard gray market being equated to stolen before.
That sounds more like the black market, which might be what you were
thinking of.
I agree with Char that just because something is sold on eBay (gray
market or otherwise) does not necessary mean it is stolen. I also agree
with the original poster's opinion that some of stuff sold on eBay is
likely stolen and you have to be very careful on who you deal with.

It seems that eBay, Criag's List and a lot of other sites are this
decades version of "right off the back of the truck".
--
Bill R.


e-mail address disguised to reduce spam
Jer
2009-02-17 18:00:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill R
Post by Char Jackson
Post by Jer
Post by aemeijers
Tried ebay? That is where I bought all my extra remotes. Admittedly,
never a 'leading edge' model, but I'm sure there are some
gray-market ones out there.
--
aem sends...
On eBay gray-market = stolen
Much more likely it means the item was not intended to be sold in this
market. I have never heard gray market being equated to stolen before.
That sounds more like the black market, which might be what you were
thinking of.
I agree with Char that just because something is sold on eBay (gray
market or otherwise) does not necessary mean it is stolen. I also agree
with the original poster's opinion that some of stuff sold on eBay is
likely stolen and you have to be very careful on who you deal with.
It seems that eBay, Criag's List and a lot of other sites are this
decades version of "right off the back of the truck".
Question is, who's truck? If I can't dial a phone to talk to the seller
and maybe someone else who can vouch for him, I'm not interested. I
refuse to be an unwitting contributor to any fencing operation. I
simply will not go there, no matter how good the deal is. IMO, eBay is
contaminated with scams and scammers and I want no part of it just to
save a couple of bucks.
--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'
Paul Redmond
2009-02-17 19:02:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jer
Post by Bill R
Post by Char Jackson
Post by Jer
Post by aemeijers
Tried ebay? That is where I bought all my extra remotes. Admittedly,
never a 'leading edge' model, but I'm sure there are some gray-market
ones out there.
--
aem sends...
On eBay gray-market = stolen
Much more likely it means the item was not intended to be sold in this
market. I have never heard gray market being equated to stolen before.
That sounds more like the black market, which might be what you were
thinking of.
I agree with Char that just because something is sold on eBay (gray
market or otherwise) does not necessary mean it is stolen. I also agree
with the original poster's opinion that some of stuff sold on eBay is
likely stolen and you have to be very careful on who you deal with.
It seems that eBay, Criag's List and a lot of other sites are this
decades version of "right off the back of the truck".
Question is, who's truck? If I can't dial a phone to talk to the seller
and maybe someone else who can vouch for him, I'm not interested. I
refuse to be an unwitting contributor to any fencing operation. I simply
will not go there, no matter how good the deal is. IMO, eBay is
contaminated with scams and scammers and I want no part of it just to save
a couple of bucks.
Many folks are quite gullible. They will buy an item on eBay and pay more
than retail. It's just the mind-set, similar to the over retail buyers at
Circuit City. I used to let our warehouseman take electrical items that were
damaged/inoperative to an auction. People would pay more for a lighting
fixture with a broken lens that they could purchase new for less.
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